Spider-man: the OG trilogy – Popcorn Not Included

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With old characters returning in the next Spider-man movie, we go back to the OG movies that started it all. We’re joined once again by our friend Garret as we re-live, re-evaluate, and discuss the Sam Raimi directed, Tobey Maguire-starring films and do a tiny bit of speculating about Spider-man: No Way Home. “OG” of course stands for “original goblin” – and if you thought that joke was bad, when was the last time you watched these movies?

Spider-man trilogy

Directed by: Sam Raimi
Starring: Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, James Franco, Willem Dafoe, Alfred Molina, Thomas Haden Church, Topher Grace, J. K. Simmons, Rosemary Harris, Cliff Robertson, Bryce Dallas Howard
Distributed by: Sony Pictures Releasing

Favorite Movies: Logan – Popcorn Not Included

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We return to our Favorite Movies series with Logan. This is Matt’s pick, but what does Maggie (who has never seen another X-men movie) think of Hugh Jackman’s last performance as Wolverine?

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Logan

Directed by: James Mangold
Produced by: Hutch Parker, Simon Kinberg, Lauren Shuler Donner
Screenplay by: Scott Frank, James Mangold, Michael Green
Edited by: Michael McCusker, Dirk Westervelt
Cinematography: John Mathieson
Music by: Marco Beltrami
Starring: Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, Richard E. Grant, Boyd Holbrook, Stephen Merchant, Dafne Keen
Distributed by: 20th Century Fox

Shazam! – Popcorn Not Included


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Continuing in our unintentional mini-series of movies with exclamation points in the title, we talk about DC’s Shazam!

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Shazam!

Directed by: David F. Sandberg
Produced by: Peter Safran
Screenplay by: Henry Gayden
Edited by: Michel Aller
Cinematography: Maxime Alexandre
Music by: Benjamin Wallfisch
Starring: Zachary Levi, Mark Strong, Asher Angel, Jack Dylan Grazer, Djimon Hounsou
Distributed by: Warner Bros. Pictures

Captain Marvel – Popcorn Not Included

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It’s another one of them Marvel movies and this time they even put the company name in the title. That’s brand synergy.

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Captain Marvel

Directed by: Anna Boden & Ryan Fleck
Produced by: Kevin Feige
Written by: Anna Boden, Ryan Fleck, and Geneva Robertson-Dworet
Edited by: Elliot Graham & Debbie Berman
Music by: Pinar Toprak
Starring: Brie Larson, Samuel L. Jackson, Ben Mendelsohn, Djimon Hounsou, Lee Pace, Lashana Lynch, Gemma Chan, Annette Bening, Clark Gregg, Jude Law
Production Company: Marvel Studios
Distributed by: Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures

Spider-man: Into the Spider-verse – Popcorn Not Included

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The superhero movies just keep on coming, but this one’s pretty special.

For the record, Miles Morales first appeared in comics in 2011 – not 2003 as I mistakenly estimated – so he’s an even newer character than I was thinking.

Spider-man: Into the Spider-verse

Directed by: Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey, and Rodney Rothman
Screenplay by: Phil Lord and Rodney Rothman
Starring: Shameik Moore, Jake Johnson, Hailee Steinfeld, Mahershala Ali, Brian Tyree Henry, Lily Tomlin, Luna Lauren Velez, John Mulaney, Nicholas Cage, Liev Schreiber
Music by: Daniel Pemberton
Studio: Sony Pictures

Incredibles 2 – Popcorn Not Included

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The 14 year wait is over! So… what did we think of Incredibles 2 after all this time waiting for it? It’s complicated. In our lengthy discussion, we debate the merits and problems of the long-awaited Pixar sequel.

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Incredibles 2
Written & Directed: Brad Bird
Starring: Craig T. Nelson, Helen Hunt, Sarah Vowell, Huck Milner, Samuel L. Jackson, Bob Odenkirk, and Catherine Keener
Music: Michael Giacchino
Cinematography: Mahyar Abousaeedi
Studio: Pixar Animation Studios

Wonder Woman combines the best of the MCU & DCEU

While it’s not quite as genre-transcendent as The Dark Knight and not quite so emotionally resonant as Spider-man 2, Wonder Woman‘s a well above average superhero movie. The film manages to be thematically satisfying while also ticking all the usual superhero movie boxes. There’s a finely-tuned balance between humor and sobriety; action and character development. Oh, and there’s villain that actually works.

Wonder Woman is the DC Extended Universe’s first good movie. We’ve previously experienced the disappointing, sometimes laughable, sometimes lamentable Man of Steel, Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice, and Suicide Squad. I guess fourth time’s the charm?

On the other side, we’ve got the Marvel Cinematic Universe sitting at 15 films (it’ll be 16 in July with the release of Spider-Man: Homecoming and 17 with Thor: Ragnarok in November). I like the Marvel movies less than your average person, but I’d say about 5 of them are pretty good. The rest are mostly competent if uninteresting to me personally.

What’s interesting is the different ways these studios (and I supposed comic book publishing houses before that) have approached their craft.

The Marvel film empire has found success from entirely competent films, but rarely good films. There’s not a lot of depth in your average Marvel Cinematic Universe movie. Lots of times they function more as extended trailers for the next film in the franchise. But they get away with it over and over and over.

Marvel’s secret is likable characters. Not necessarily deep characters. Not challenging, complex characters, but really likable ones. I didn’t even realize how much I liked these characters at first, but they kept me coming back despite often being disappointed by the movies built around them.

DC, conversely, has done a notoriously bad job with its characters beginning with the absolute butchery of Superman in Man of Steel. And I think that’s the main and perhaps only real problem of DC’s films before Wonder Woman. Audiences forgive all kinds of ills if they are presented with likable characters to follow.

DC has been criticized widely for being dark, brooding, and generally lacking in fun. I would say last year’s Batman v. Superman was the height (or the low point) of this. It left me impressed by the visuals, but utterly cold otherwise. It presented a world not worth saving and superheroes who didn’t seem to believe in much of anything. None of them were likable (with the exception of Wonder Woman’s cameo – but she was hardly a developed character in that movie.)

While DC lacks in characters, there is a certain ambition on display in these films – a visionary flair. There’s a grandiose air about them. They skew closer to myth than Marvel’s utilitarian filmmaking.

DC movies desperately want to be About Something. This has lead to grander and more spectacular failure, of course, but you can’t deny the effort. There’s real vision and passion behind the messy final products.

Marvel’s lack of ideas and themes really bores me. Those movies don’t say much of anything about the world, human nature, history, politics, science, spirituality, or even about the heroes themselves. And on rare occasion that a Marvel movie does contain thematic elements (like the surveillance state in Captain America: The Winter Soldier or artificial intelligence in Avengers: Age of Ultron), they’re never developed, never fully formed thoughts.

Sure, sometimes it’s nice see a piece of escapist fiction that doesn’t remind you of real life. But I think it’s cowardly and disingenuous to keep making movies ostensibly about heroes doing good in the world if you’re never saying anything about the world.

Wonder Woman is comparatively a poignant statement about human nature while also being entertaining mythmaking. This film shows that likable characters and interwoven thematic content in a superhero movie works extremely well. I hope we see more like this.